Burt Kunzler, a life-long resident of Park Valley, Utah, compares cattle and sheep ranching in the area. He and his two younger brothers run the family operation together, yet divide responsibilities of overseeing the crops, cattle, and sheep. They face issues with feed, grazing, sheepherders, and predators. He ends the interview with a short discussion of the community’s tradition of chivaree. Interviewed by Rosa Thornley on 26 January 2011 at the Park Valley School in Park Valley, Utah.